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Life gets “life-y” sometimes – when there’s a  sudden pile of unfortunate things to handle that we didn’t expect. And sometimes we grapple with being disappointed in life because our way is blocked and difficult .

Even though we are good people who live the faith or pray a lot, it seems like God isn’t listening. What do we do when we feel all alone with our difficulties, and God doesn’t seem to care?

Mary says, “God does not help us avoid pain. God helps us know who we are through the pain, and helps us move into new joys. Human beings are amazing and resilient, with an unquenchable spark of God within us. If we’re unhappy with “God,” it’s because we have to grow beyond our former concept of God, and find the new understanding that brings us forward.”

Does this sound heavy? But …. NO!

Mary is at her slapstick best in this conversation as she shares her poignant and hilarious story of her fight with God about her frustration with lack of control in pregnancy and childbirth.

Enjoy some hefty philosophy delivered painlessly and with a flourish as Mary and Erin explore this most difficult of human dilemmas: how to forgive God.